"There's lone truthful galore times you tin crook a deaf receptor to being called murdering scum," smiles erstwhile fox hunt master, Byron John.
He says it successful a jokey way, arsenic radical thin to bash erstwhile trying to deflect from a superior and emotionally hard topic.
It has been astir 20 years since hunting foxes with dogs was banned, but Mr John says helium inactive finds himself successful a "fight for survival" to support elements of the athletics helium loves alive.
For others, specified arsenic Dafydd Hughes, the combat is rather antithetic - helium has spent 14 years pursuing hunts astir northbound Wales, trying to sabotage them, and doing his utmost to extremity hunting successful each its forms.
The pursuit contiguous is rather antithetic to however it played retired successful the past.
For the past decade, Mr John has championed a signifier of hunting that sees a quality runner - alternatively than a fox - chased, helium told BBC Wales Live.
Other hunts person adopted way hunting which sees a rag soaked successful carnal scent, specified arsenic fox urine, dragged on a way for the hounds to follow.
It is intended to replicate hunting without sidesplitting animals, but critics assertion it tin beryllium utilized arsenic a "smokescreen" for the existent thing.
Last twelvemonth the Scottish authorities banned way hunting and constricted the fig of dogs being utilized successful hunts to nary much than 2 without a license.
But present Mr John worries that if the UK authorities bans way hunting, helium whitethorn besides beryllium forced to adjacent down his Three Counties Bloodhound group.
The UK authorities said it had "ambitious plans to amended carnal welfare".
Back successful the mid 2000s, conscionable aft the ban, Mr John was person of the Carmarthenshire Hunt successful agrarian westbound Wales.
It was a relation helium had dreamed of having since childhood, but 1 helium said helium had gradually began to realise helium could not keep.
"In the run-up to the prohibition it precise overmuch felt that it was a people war," helium said.
"You felt you were doing a pest power occupation for the farmer. But determination are different ways successful spot present of doing that.
"The satellite is changed."
The decades since the prohibition person been marked with ugly, sometimes violent, clashes betwixt hunts and saboteur groups - who impeach them of breaking the law.
These groups often effort to usage the hunts' ain tools against them - buying imitation horns and whips to effort to distract the hounds.
Some saboteurs judge authorities has failed, and person taken it upon themselves to effort and halt the hunts.
"I'm astatine the constituent wherever it needs to beryllium a implicit prohibition connected each types of hunting, simulated oregon not," said Dafydd Hughes.
He has spent the past 14 years pursuing hunts crossed the countryside of northbound Wales.
Initially, helium handed retired leaflets connected precocious streets arsenic portion of an carnal rights group.
But 1 acquisition led to him taking much nonstop action, arsenic helium added: "We were approached by 1 of the hunters from our section hunt who started shouting maltreatment and saying what a large time they'd had sidesplitting foxes the week before.
"So, the week after, conscionable the 3 of america turned up astatine that hunt."
Unlike galore saboteurs, the 46-year-old does not deterioration a disguise - and was blessed to beryllium interviewed connected camera.
"I presume the hunts perfectly hatred us," helium said.
"We ruin their day. You've got to effort to support a chill caput though.
"It's not casual to articulation a sab radical - and it shouldn't be.
"You person to interrogation radical who privation to join, you don't privation troublemakers."
Mr Hughes - who was erstwhile recovered blameworthy of battle for pushing a hunt protagonist - admits convulsive incidents tin happen.
But helium said the groups bash what they tin to cheque caller members for "red flags".
"We'll cheque retired their societal media and things. We request radical who are funny successful stopping fox hunting, not radical who privation to travel retired and fight," helium said.
Mr Hughes said helium believed a batch of hunts had "already folded" with "membership down" successful caller years.
Are radical inactive fox hunting 20 years aft it was banned?
It was backmost successful 2012 that Mr John made the determination to resign from his hunt - aft losing assurance the prohibition would ever beryllium overturned.
Then spontaneously 1 Christmas, portion his spouse was distant visiting family, helium went retired and bought a battalion of bloodhounds.
He present has 41 of the dogs, which helium has trained to travel quality scent.
"I was having a sensation for what other could beryllium done, different mode forwards," helium said.
After researching his options, Mr John formed the Three Counties Bloodhounds - which instrumentality portion successful "clean footwear hunting".
As helium explains, it means they inactive formal up successful "all the unusual gear" and usage dogs and horses successful a precise akin mode to fox hunting - but instead, the hounds are taught to lone travel quality scent.
"We support uncovering these perfectly eccentric people, who privation to tally up of a battalion of hounds," helium said.
The hunting seasoned said helium felt their mode was the champion mode of "keeping contented alive", but admitted the "older generation" spot him arsenic "a Judas" who has "sold out".
"We get it from some sides," helium said.
"I deliberation successful each signifier of beingness oregon immoderate enactment oregon immoderate passion, there's going to beryllium extremes."
Mr John said his radical bid their runners, who are employed by the hunt to fly from the dogs, to debar badger and fox dens, arsenic good arsenic immoderate different wildlife that could beryllium disturbed by them.
But helium fears a deficiency of knowing could pb to their hunt being banned if the UK authorities alteration the instrumentality again.
"There person been truthful galore instances of instrumentality breaking [by hunts]," said Mr John.
"It's been brought to the forefront by societal media.
"We consciousness that everyone gets tarred by the aforesaid brushwood and it's not good. We consciousness the hostility and I deliberation it's unfair."
A spokesperson for the Countryside Alliance said the radical felt the existent Hunting Act was moving and immoderate prosecutions for amerciable hunting demonstrated that.
Rachel Evans from the Countryside Alliance successful Wales said saboteurs had "no place" successful the countryside.
She added: "The tactics that the hunt saboteurs are using, trying to disrupt the day, specified arsenic utilizing sprays and large noises and hunting horns adjacent - that tin distract the hounds from their work.
"Then the huntsman has to ore to propulsion them backmost successful enactment and support them retired of danger.
“The saboteurs evidently person nary respect for the payment of horses and hounds."
A spokesperson for the UK authorities said: "This authorities was elected connected a mandate to present the astir ambitious plans to amended carnal payment successful a procreation - that is precisely what we volition do.
"We volition prohibition way hunting that allows for the amerciable hunting of foxes, deer, and hares."