Gut Reaction Might Be That Less Is More - Medpage Today

Many patients who acquisition palmy renal transplantation and besides person Crohn's illness were capable to debar immunomodulating oregon biologic agents to power their gut disease, according to probe presented astatine the Advances successful Inflammatory Bowel Diseases (AIBD) yearly meeting.

In this last of four exclusive episodes, MedPage Today brought unneurotic 3 adept leaders successful the tract -- moderator Jason Hou, MD, of Baylor College of Medicine successful Houston, is joined by Shirley Ann Cohen-Mekelburg, MD, of the University of Michigan successful Ann Arbor, and Frank Scott, MD, of the University of Colorado, Anschutz Medical Campus successful Aurora -- for a virtual roundtable treatment connected the findings.

Following is simply a transcript of their remarks:

Hou: Hello, everybody. My sanction is Dr. Jason Hou, subordinate prof of medicine astatine Baylor College of Medicine. I'd similar to invited you each to the MedPage Today virtual roundtable. We're present discussing posters and presentations from AIBD 2022. With maine contiguous for the treatment is Dr. Frank Scott, subordinate prof of medicine astatine the University of Colorado, arsenic good arsenic Dr. Shirley Cohen-Mekelburg, adjunct prof of medicine astatine the University of Michigan and Ann Arbor VA.

Alright, and moving on, I person 1 much abstract that I thought was rather absorbing and wanted to bring up for discussion. This was an abstract by Dr. [Marianny] Sulbaran and colleagues astatine the Mayo Jacksonville Group titled "Outcomes successful Crohn's Disease successful Patients aft Renal Transplant." It was a retrospective survey of patients with Crohn's and are recipients of a renal transplant from 2016 to 2022 successful the the Mayo dataset. And they identified 93 patients.

It was mostly a descriptive study, but I deliberation they had respective absorbing observations. The 1 that benignant of caught my oculus was, successful this cohort of patients, 54 patients were successful remission aft their transplant, but astir of them did not person to resume their biologic and were inactive successful remission. What are your thoughts astir this? Is this thing that you see? How bash you negociate patients that mightiness person IBD who necessitate further immunosuppression for a antithetic different indication? What bash you bash with their biologic successful that situation? What's your experience, and what are your thoughts connected these patients who conscionable were capable to halt and enactment successful remission disconnected treatment?

Scott: I deliberation this is simply a truly fantabulous accidental for multidisciplinary care. It's going into the transplant, it's important who the transplant squad is, what their post-transplant immunosuppressive regimen is going to be, if determination are opportunities for synergy wherever you mightiness prime for therapies that could perchance negociate their IBD arsenic good truthful that you tin person a regimen that volition some assistance with the transplanted organ and forestall rejection, arsenic good arsenic perchance trim the request for different biologic therapies oregon immunosuppressive drugs for their inflammatory bowel disease.

It's been my acquisition that our transplant surgeons and transplant medicine teams, some successful renal and hepatology, person been truly consenting to person those conversations upfront and perchance modify regimens and usage drugs that we cognize mightiness person immoderate imaginable overlap here. I deliberation successful this cohort successful particular, for example, determination was a important magnitude of tacrolimus [Prograf] use, which we cognize tin person immoderate efficacy successful Crohn's disease. And truthful erstwhile you spot the fig similar 54%, it reminds maine a batch of immoderate of the oncologic information we've seen, for example, wherever you're benignant of piggybacking disconnected of the much intensive immunosuppression that's utilized to dainty the superior illness that's helping power the inflammatory bowel illness astatine the aforesaid time.

Cohen-Mekelburg: I hold wholly with Frank. Often, I would accidental successful objective signifier we get called to co-manage these patients and whenever I look up the literature, there's not overmuch retired there. So, the much lit that becomes available, the better. As you were saying, I deliberation connection and coordination with the nephrology squad is truly cardinal present and a benignant of comfortableness connected some sides.

I deliberation having these numbers, that fractional of patients were successful remission aft a transplant with transplant immunosuppression, I deliberation that's utile for discussing expectations with patients earlier transplant. I deliberation -- archer maine if you guys deliberation otherwise -- but to me, benignant of my biggest interest going into these transplant is mostly information of the "what if'" -- what if we request to usage IBD-targeted treatments, the drug-drug interactions, benignant of the grade of immunosuppression. And truthful I deliberation it's reassuring that one, determination doesn't truly look to beryllium a inclination towards flares aft transplants -- they picture a fewer patients that were besides connected infliximab [Remicade], vedolizumab [Entyvio], ustekinumab [Stelara].

I'd beryllium funny to perceive I conjecture a small spot much astir this radical and their immunosuppression regimens, conscionable fixed that to maine that is benignant of the astir aggravated happening benignant of going into transplant arsenic though what if you request to usage those? But I deliberation this is large accusation to person for our patients.

Scott: I afloat agree. I deliberation 1 of the different things that's important to item successful this diligent colonisation is that adjacent if you forego IBD-directed biologic therapy, that you continued the aforesaid monitoring programme that you would if they were to beryllium a non-transplant diligent connected infliximab, for example. If anything, they're much deserving of quarterly biochemical monitoring and structural reevaluation periodically, to guarantee that adjacent if clinically they're doing well, you tin drawback immoderate recurrence of inflammation and statesman to tweak their regimen earlier they go clinically symptomatic

Cohen-Mekelburg: For sure. And astatine the aforesaid clip making definite that you're keeping up with much preventative therapies, colon crab screening vaccines, that benignant of thing.

Scott: Absolutely.

Hou: Great speech erstwhile again. Just to summarize, this is an absorbing study, looking astatine this cohort of patients with Crohn's and renal transplant and seeing immoderate patients didn't request to proceed therapy. And I deliberation arsenic some of you highlighted, whether they request therapy oregon not, they should proceed monitoring. It does get a small much complicated.

So multidisciplinary enactment and conversations with the transplant squad are incredibly important. There whitethorn beryllium immoderate opportunities, arsenic Frank mentioned, wherever they could person immoderate targeted therapies, therapies for transplant rejection prevention, that whitethorn person immoderate imaginable payment successful IBD specified arsenic tacro[limus]. So those are immoderate large considerations successful these patients.

And arsenic Shirley mentioned, it's been encouraging to spot that galore of the patients who bash request our benignant of accepted IBD-focused therapies often tin inactive support and get that. But it's important to person that speech with the transplant squad arsenic we're considering enactment of medications.

So those were the 4 abstracts that I wanted to item from the AIBD 2023 meeting. I'd similar to convey our panelists, Dr. Frank Scott and Dr. Shirley Cohen-Mekelburg, for immoderate truly large and insightful comments connected these. Look guardant to seeing y'all astatine the adjacent meeting. Thank you, everybody.

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