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The House January 6 committee connected Sunday released different question of witnesser interrogation transcripts.
The caller merchandise is portion of a dependable watercourse of transcript drops from the House prime committee successful caller days, complementing the release of its sweeping 845-page report.
The latest transcript driblet comes arsenic the sheet winds down its enactment with the House bulk acceptable to alteration hands from Democrats to Republicans connected Tuesday astatine the commencement of the caller Congress.
The transcripts released truthful acold person shed caller airy connected however the House committee conducted its probe of the January 6, 2021, onslaught on the US Capitol – and caller details astir what cardinal witnesses told the panel.
Here are immoderate of the highlights from the latest disclosures:
Mark Meadows, erstwhile President Donald Trump’s White House main of staff, provided the prime committee with 6,600 pages of email records and astir 2,000 substance messages, according to a transcript of a deposition for which Meadows did not look successful December 2021.
Investigators ran done immoderate of the items they had hoped to inquire Meadows astir if helium had appeared, including a December 2020 email from Meadows stating, “Rudy was enactment successful charge. That was the President’s decision,” according to the committee transcript.
The committee besides hoped to inquire Meadows astir definite passages successful his book, circumstantial text connection exchanges and his outreach to the Justice Department “encouraging investigations of suspected elector fraud.” The committee besides planned to inquire Meadows astir his communications regarding deploying the National Guard connected January 6, “including a January 5th email from Mr. Meadows successful which helium indicates that the Guard would beryllium contiguous astatine the Capitol to, quote, ‘protect 153 pro-Trump people,’ extremity quote.”
The committee likewise convened no-show deposition meetings for erstwhile Trump adjutant Dan Scavino, erstwhile Trump medication authoritative Peter Navarro and right-wing media property Steve Bannon, who antecedently worked successful the Trump White House. The little transcripts of those meetings papers the failure of the witnesses to look and communications the committee had with the witnesses oregon their representatives.
In a transcript with Alexandra Preate, who worked arsenic a spokeswoman for Bannon, the committee asked astir their substance exchanges. In one, the 2 appeared to beryllium discussing – days aft the Capitol was attacked – 1 cardinal radical surrounding the Capitol aft Joe Biden’s inauguration connected January 20, 2021.
The committee interviewer quotes Bannon’s substance arsenic saying, “I’d situation the Capitol successful full silence.”
When asked if she and Bannon talked astir bringing radical backmost to Washington, DC, adjacent aft January 6, Preate said, “I don’t callback that” and it was “not my deal.” Preate besides said she believes Trump mislaid the election.
Read the afloat transcript of the no-show deposition with Mark Meadows.
Read the afloat transcript of the interrogation with Alexandra Preate.
Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel told the committee that the erstwhile president called her connected January 1, 2021, and asked her astir her narration with then-Vice President Mike Pence.
“I bash person a recollection of him asking maine what my narration was with the Vice President, and I said I didn’t cognize him precise well,” McDaniel told the prime committee, according to a transcript.
McDaniel said she could not callback if they specifically discussed the relation Pence would play successful certifying the Electoral College ballot 5 days aft that call. But McDaniel said that aboriginal on, aft the US Capitol attack, Trump conveyed to her privately “in 1 mode oregon different that, you know, the Vice President had the authorization to – I don’t cognize the close ineligible term, but helium had the authorization to not judge the electors.”
She besides said Trump called her connected January 7 but they did not speech astir the attack.
The sheet revealed during its hearings implicit the summertime that Trump called McDaniel straight successful December to archer her astir the program for a radical of states to taxable alternate slates of electors and connected her to his elections lawyer John Eastman, but her afloat transcript reveals much details astir what was shared betwixt the RNC, Trump White House and the Trump run astatine the time.
In the lead-up to January 6, McDaniel testified that she did not cognize that the alternate slates of electors were being considered for thing different than contingent electors successful lawsuit ineligible challenges changed authorities predetermination results. She added she was not privy to a batch of those discussions and that she was going done ankle country astir the clip of the Capitol attack.
McDaniel told committee investigators that aft that December call, she called the Trump campaign’s counsel Justin Clark, who gave her the content that the run was alert of the alleged alternate elector program and was moving connected it. She besides testified that connected December 14, erstwhile she was informed that mendacious electors met, she sent a enactment to erstwhile Trump White House adjutant Molly Michael.
As for fundraising emails from the RNC astir the 2020 election, McDaniel said the RNC worked intimately with Clark but that erstwhile Giuliani took implicit Trump’s ineligible efforts, helium “was doing his ain happening and didn’t truly scope retired to the RNC.”
Read the afloat transcript of the interrogation with Ronna McDaniel.
A Trump run lawyer described to the committee a petition by Giuliani to beryllium paid $20,000 per time for his post-election ineligible enactment – a petition that Giuliani has denied making.
Matthew Morgan, who was wide counsel for erstwhile President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign, described to the committee however the run handled requests by Giuliani and his squad – which took implicit the campaign’s litigation strategy successful mid-November 2020 – to bring connected extracurricular attorneys and firms.
“Rudy Giuliani himself, helium requested an engagement letter, and helium requested done a surrogate what was viewed arsenic a ample magnitude of compensation,” Morgan said, according to a transcript of an April interrogation that was made nationalist Sunday.
“And erstwhile I presented this to (Trump lawman run manager) Justin Clark, Justin Clark didn’t deliberation that was a fig the run was consenting to wage and I relied connected past Justin to archer maine if we could bash specified an engagement missive and past it ne'er materialized.”
Morgan told the House committee the inquire was made via an subordinate of Giuliani’s, Maria Ryan, and that it was for $20,000 per day. He declined to reply further questions from the committee astir the pushback from the run to the request.
CNN previously reported that Giuliani was asking for $20,000-per-day successful November 2020, citing a source. At the time, Giuliani denied to The New York Times that helium was seeking that figure.
Read the afloat transcript of the interrogation with Matthew Morgan.
Trump White House aides offered conflicting accounts of however the erstwhile president reacted erstwhile helium learned helium would not beryllium taken to the US Capitol connected January 6, 2021.
While Cassidy Hutchinson, successful her testimony, described Trump’s absorption arsenic an aggravated outburst, Robert “Bobby” Engel – the pb cause successful Trump’s motorcade the time of the riot – seemingly told others successful the White House that Trump simply “shrugged it off” erstwhile helium was told helium would not beryllium taken to the Capitol.
When Engel returned to the White House aft Trump’s January 6 speech, helium stopped by the bureau shared by erstwhile White House lawman main of unit Tony Ornato and William “Beau” Harrison, the peculiar adjunct to the president for operations.
“It was brought to our attraction that the President asked wherever americium I going. You know, americium I going – americium I going backmost to the White House. And Bob said, yeah, you know, we’re going backmost to the White House,” Harrison told committee investigators successful an August 2022 interview, according to the transcript.
“And astatine that constituent I person a circumstantial representation of Bobby telling some Tony and myself, arsenic we were successful the room, nary 1 other was successful the room, that the President astir benignant of shrugged it off,” Harrison told the committee. “He conscionable benignant of moved on.”
Harrison told legislature investigators helium had ne'er heard of a heated statement successful the conveyance until helium saw Hutchinson’s grounds connected television. “I would besides adhd that, if thing similar had been described had occurred, I 100 percent would person known astir it and would person heard that.”
When Hutchinson testified, Harrison got a telephone from Ornato. Ornato said, essentially, “Can you judge this?” and “Where is this communicative adjacent coming from,” according to Harrison’s committee transcript.
Notably, Harrison told investigators helium was not paying for his ineligible practice and was not definite who was footing the bill.
Harrison’s lawyer for his committee interrogation was Stefan Passantino, who antecedently represented Hutchinson and allegedly encouraged Hutchinson to supply misleading testimony. Passantino has insisted helium represented Hutchinson “honorably” and “ethically.”
Read the afloat transcript of the interrogation with Beau Harrison.
Kenneth Chesebro – the Trump lawyer described by the House January 6 committee arsenic the architect of the post-2020 predetermination fake electors scheme – declined to reply the bulk of the panel’s questions successful an October deposition, according to a transcript.
Chesebro invoked some his Fifth Amendment close against self-incrimination arsenic good arsenic attorney-client privilege erstwhile asked questions astir a assortment of topics, including his interactions with Trump, his relation successful the crippled to enactment guardant Trump electors to rival the Biden electors successful states that Biden won and the propulsion to person Pence disrupt Congress’ certification of Biden’s win.
“I judge my Fifth Amendment privilege covers this full taxable substance successful presumption of immoderate engagement with the alternate electors,” Chesebro said astatine 1 constituent successful the deposition. At its start, his lawyer referenced the transgression probes successful Fulton County, Georgia, and by the Justice Department, which are some looking intimately astatine the fake electors scheme.
Chesebro did reply immoderate of the committee’s much abstract questions astir however helium learned of the ineligible questions that shaped the theories helium promoted aft the 2020 election. However, citing the Fifth Amendment, helium refused to accidental whether helium went to the White House connected December 16, 2020, arsenic suggested by an email obtained by the committee, oregon if helium was successful Washington, DC, connected January 6, 2021.
He besides refused to corroborate that helium was the Kenneth Chesebro listed connected immoderate emails obtained by the committee that investigators sought to inquire him about.
“I deliberation I would instrumentality the Fifth successful presumption of authenticating a papers that is related to the taxable substance arsenic to which I’m taking the Fifth,” helium said.
Read the afloat transcript of the interrogation with Kenneth Chesebro.
As rioters were breaking into the Capitol connected January 6, Trump called his enforcement assistant, Molly Michael, to inquire her what she thought and she described the country that was unfolding, according to a transcript of her interrogation with the committee.
“The President of the United States successful the mediate of a riot astatine the Capitol calls you and asks you what you think, not what you spot but what you think, and you don’t callback what you told him different than conscionable reporting what was connected TV?” investigators asked.
“The TV is precise large, and the sum was connected astir apt each 4 of the stations. So that was truly each I was seeing,” Michael said. “The images I was seeing is the predominant representation I have.”
Committee investigators pressed her for much details connected however Trump reacted during their call.
“You don’t retrieve him expressing immoderate distress, immoderate frustration, immoderate anger, immoderate anything. Is that right?” investigators asked.
Michael responded, “The phones were ringing. A batch was happening. I don’t recall.”
Michael’s lengthy interrogation transcript was dense with moments she did not recall, specified arsenic Trump’s demeanor astatine the extremity of the time connected January 6.
When legislature investigators asked Michael if she was alert successful the tally up to January 6 of a “very serious, acrimonious conflict” betwixt Trump and Pence, Michael said she couldn’t callback but determination were often heated conversations playing retired successful the Oval Office.
Her committee interrogation besides revealed much details astir Trump’s activities the nighttime earlier the Capitol attack, erstwhile helium was seemingly directing his adjunct to stock predetermination fraud claims with GOP senators.
Trump directed Michael to nonstop Sens. Lindsey Graham and Josh Hawley a papers entitled “The Art of the Steal” – seemingly authored by Navarro – connected the evening of January 5, according to emails investigators reviewed with Michael during her committee interview.
Congressional investigators asked Michael astir the emails, which she sent connected Trump’s behalf with the taxable enactment “From POTUS.”
Read the afloat transcript of the interrogation with Molly Michael.