'Mary Sue' Twitter Thread Sparks Debate About Unlikeable Female Leads - TMZ

'Mary Sue' Twitter Thread Sparks Debate ... On Unlikeable Female Leads

12/3/2022 2:18 PM PT

The crushed there's truthful galore unlikeable pistillate leads is due to the fact that Hollywood is each successful connected "Mary Sue" -- truthful says 1 writer ... whose blistery instrumentality is getting blasted arsenic straight-up misogyny.

A fella named Joshua Lisec -- who's ghostwritten a ton of books implicit the years -- took to Twitter this week to outline a precise agelong statement helium firmly believes successful ... namely, that the literate "Mary Sue" archetype is live and thriving successful modern-day entertainment, contempt the information radical aren't truly into these beardown fictional heroines who footwear ass retired of nowhere.

His words ... not ours.

Essentially, this boils down to characters similar Rey (Daisy Ridley, 'Star Wars'), Galadriel (Morfydd Clark, "Rings of Power"), Carol Danvers (Brie Larson, "Captain Marvel") and adjacent Bo Peep (Annie Potts, "Toy Story 4") and others who commencement retired successful a caller crippled arsenic atrocious to the bony ... contempt a deficiency of training/backstory to explicate however they came to beryllium truthful strong.

Now, whether that explanation of a emblematic Mary Sue really applies to the above-mentioned characters -- and different pistillate leads successful enactment movies successful wide -- is what's astatine statement here.

Lisec's thread has gone viral, with a ton of backlash coming his mode for what a batch of radical assertion is simply a convoluted and long-winded mode to accidental ... helium simply doesn't similar women, and can't basal the thought of a pistillate quality being thing different than a damsel successful distress.

There are others poking holes successful his mentation ... astatine 1 constituent during which helium makes comparisons to classical antheral leads whom helium thinks were decently fleshed retired (Luke Skywalker, etc.) Some are offering examples of countless accepted antheral heroes who've emerged with unexplained powers ... noting Mary Sue is simply a canine whistle to onslaught women.

As for wherefore this convo is adjacent taking spot ... well, it appears determination are some, similar Lisec, who consciousness determination is, successful fact, a propulsion from Hollywood lately for "strong pistillate leads" to regenerate leader roles that would different spell to men. The forthcoming 'Indiana Jones' flick appears to beryllium mounting up Phoebe Waller-Bridge's quality for precisely that (the "new Indy" post-Ford).

This isn't a sentiment that's ace fringe either ... Emily Blunt has denounced the "strong pistillate lead" statement -- fundamentally saying it was being done to death, and that she's implicit it.

The discourse, per usual, rages on.