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Spoilers for the sixth occurrence of The White Lotus season two, “Abductions.”

“I thought, I americium fucked. Like, I americium fucked! This relation is gonna ruin my life,” Sabrina Impacciatore exclaims implicit a Zoom telephone from Los Angeles. The 54-year-old Italian histrion — well-known and well-loved successful her autochthonal state aft rising to fame connected ’90s assortment amusement Non è la RAI — plays Valentina, the manager of the White Lotus Sicily successful season two of Mike White’s deed HBO anthology series. Her relation is the Italian counterpart to Murray Bartlett’s Armond, a quality whose beingness was paramount to play one’s decision and won Bartlett his archetypal Emmy.

“He became an icon of this show,” Impacciatore continues. “I was terrified astir the comparison; the expectations were precise high. And past I had to beryllium bitchy connected apical of that? I wanna go an planetary actress! And with this role, I volition ne'er enactment again.”

And yet, Valentina’s blunt retorts, wide misandry, and teetering successful stiletto pumps crossed the Taormina cobblestones person endeared her to audiences, with Impacciatore racking up media appearances and memes crossed the internet. Episode six swaps retired her comedic beats for an affectional roller coaster: After moving up the gumption to inquire Isabella connected a day (on her ain birthday, nary less), Valentina is thrilled erstwhile she accepts — until the unwitting Isabella confides that she’s engaged to Rocco. Visibly devastated, the manager cancels their plans to sip martinis unsocial astatine the bar. Then Mia (Beatrice Grannò) arrives with a proposition, and the brace usage Valentina’s maestro cardinal to sneak into a suite, wherever Mia helps Valentina person her archetypal intersexual acquisition with a woman. “Mike was precise passionate astir this moment,” Impacciatore says of the tender sequence. “Her truly wanted to affirm the information that the hookup makes Valentina yet free.”

I request to commencement with the starfish pin Valentina gives Isabella. It’s been bothering maine since episode four. No 1 is expected to deliberation that’s pretty, right?
I inactive don’t know. When I saw the pin, I was wondering, Is it a spot cheesy? I cognize it was precise precious. In the archetypal take, I virtually described the pin to Isabella successful large item to marque her recognize however overmuch wealth I had invested successful this gift. It was a motion that Valentina is making a large effort. But it’s a motion that’s astir excessively much, a spot invasive. You know, I conscionable learned that a starfish is simply a awesome of everlastingly love.

Aw! That makes it truthful overmuch sadder erstwhile Valentina finds retired Isabella isn’t into her.
I mean, she’s truthful naïve. We spot her truthful alone, and past she falls successful emotion with Isabella. She doesn’t recognize that Isabella doesn’t emotion her back. Then, successful that infinitesimal of vulnerability, there’s this gathering of a beingness with Mia. Even if they’re not going to beryllium together, who cares? There is simply a click. Mike was precise passionate astir this moment; helium came to maine and said, “Sabrina, Valentina can’t beryllium bittersweet erstwhile she understands she is not going to person a narration with Mia.” Mike wanted to truly affirm the information that the hookup makes Valentina yet free. That was truly touching to me. I cried a batch off-camera with this character. Even present I get emotional. I emotion her truthful much.

Did you person a backstory you made up for Valentina, oregon did Mike enactment connected that with you?
So, I ne'er talked with Mike. Like, we ne'er rehearsed. So I arrived to the archetypal time of shooting terrified due to the fact that I didn’t cognize what helium wanted from this character. We talked for 5 minutes and helium told me, “Valentina is truthful direct. She conscionable says things she feels.” Through my character, helium wanted to archer this communicative astir his ain acquisition traveling successful Europe, erstwhile helium met idiosyncratic who didn’t dainty him successful a mode helium was expecting.

At first, I struggled a lot. He told me, “Sabrina, you person to beryllium much bitchy!” And I didn’t get it close away. I was frightened that radical could hatred me. It’s my archetypal American show, a immense amusement successful America; I was excited and I was terrified! So, I made up her backstory connected my ain and I didn’t adjacent stock it with Mike. I’m an histrion who truly needs to consciousness things. I don’t act, I unrecorded things, and the lone happening successful the publication was that Valentina was joined galore years ago. With the editing, that accusation is not determination anymore, truthful I created the communicative of an abusive relationship. I imagined her astatine home, not having a existent life, not having friends, precise lonely. In fact, the country with the kittens helped maine a batch due to the fact that I thought, Valentina loves these kittens truthful overmuch due to the fact that she’s not astatine easiness with quality beings.

I loved that country with the stray cats successful episode three. It’s our archetypal glimpse astatine thing deeper successful her.
Sometimes radical emotion animals much than humans due to the fact that they consciousness the animals don’t justice them. They don’t inquire questions; they conscionable emotion you. The much Valentina works, the little she tin deliberation astir herself. Her occupation is simply a mode to person power implicit her beingness due to the fact that each her emotions are repressed. To maine that was precise touching, that Valentina was successful interaction with herself done those kittens.

So that abusive relationship, that’s wherever her hatred of men comes from?
Valentina doesn’t adjacent cognize wherefore she treats men badly. She conscionable feels uncomfortable. She feels they privation thing from her that she doesn’t privation to springiness them, but she doesn’t cognize why. To me, that was amazingly innocent. Because erstwhile Isabella comes to her and tells her, “I respect you. I similar the mode you dainty men,” it’s the archetypal clip Valentina ever considered that she does that. But she feels seen for the archetypal time, and truthful she gets attached to the archetypal idiosyncratic that pays attraction to her.

Like a mislaid kitten.
Exactly! She’s a lost, bittersweet kitten. In fact, I worked a batch successful the other absorption of bitchy. I imagined a cactus being repellent from the extracurricular but precise saccharine inside.

I privation to inquire astir Valentina’s sexuality against the backdrop of Sicilian civilization and sex dynamics. Did that travel into play astatine all?
Of course. In Italy, sexuality is inactive a large issue. The queer assemblage doesn’t person the aforesaid rights arsenic heterosexual radical oregon similar queer radical successful America. Always successful my life, it made maine struggle. As an actress, I’ve ever tried to pass that we person the aforesaid close to love. For example, I’ve done it successful a monologue astir homophobia. We each love; who cares if you emotion a idiosyncratic of your aforesaid sex? Why shouldn’t you person the aforesaid rights? But due to the fact that we person the Vatican successful Italy, that’s a large issue. So, not lone does Valentina not cognize herself, but from the taste constituent of view, she’s frightened to judge that idea.

And past Mia and Lucia travel on flaunting their sexuality. It’s an affront to Valentina’s precise being, isn’t it?
Yes, of course, due to the fact that they unrecorded with their sexuality successful a precise escaped way. Valentina astir apt felt unconsciously threatened by them. Her absorption to them is precise beardown astatine the beginning, but done them, she yet meets herself, meets her truth.

Thinking astir the consequences of being cheery successful Italy, what’s the absorption been to Valentina, oregon to you, online?
I’ve been surprised. So galore radical person written maine connected Instagram. They say, “I emotion you. You are my favorite. I can’t hold for your episode. I privation to wed you.” Even with conscionable a fewer scenes, they are loving maine and loving this character.

Someone projected marriage?
Okay, well, not marriage, but I’ve had truthful galore emotion declarations from antithetic people: men, women, girls, transgender people. In Italy I americium a queer icon, but it’s happening present too, and I’m truthful arrogant of that. Maybe I volition person a woman successful the future.

How did you go a queer icon successful Italy?
It’s a unusual destiny. It happened similar 20 years ago. They support pursuing maine and they truly enactment me. I’ve been a queer godmother for queer movie festivals, cheery pride, they impact maine successful their celebrations. It is thing precise peculiar to me. But I person nary thought however it started. When I was 18, I did a immense assortment amusement that became a phenomenon. Even though it was connected successful the ’90s, they inactive aerial it each year. On the show, I was a comedian and I utilized to invent characters; I wrote and I sang this opus that the queer assemblage loved truthful much. I utilized to formal myself up successful tons of makeup, wigs. I was ne'er the cute miss trying to delight everybody, and I didn’t privation to. I conscionable privation to beryllium myself and I privation to beryllium free, and I privation to combat for the rights of everybody.

So, fundamentally you’re the Italy-based Lady Gaga.
[Laughs.] There are immoderate memes astir that. Allora! On TikTok determination is 1 that says, “Lady Gaga’s champion acting ever,” and it’s a representation of maine successful the show. It’s weird due to the fact that connected Instagram radical accidental I should person done House of Gucci. It’s crazy. You cognize what? Look astatine this. [Impacciatore demonstrates her profile, moving her pointer digit down her chemoreceptor to accentuate the bump connected the ridge.] I mean, my God. Actually, erstwhile I saw A Star Is Born, I identified a batch with Gaga. I consciousness similar she’s my sister and I can’t hold to conscionable her someday.

Hey, good possibly idiosyncratic — *cough cough* Mike White — volition constitute a sister communicative for you and Gaga.
Oh my God! That’s a bully suggestion!